remember it's still we have to be a party of idea and harness and find new idea and harness some of the energy around the idea and help some of the individual part of the party going forward. i think he'll help them. >> you were with the president in iowa a emotional place for him. he doesn't have anymore campaign ahead of him. give us a short picture what it was like being with him as it was coming to an end. >> he's not a very publicly emotional guy as most people know. he said later that he was struck by the last event. everybody is tired. you're the walking dead. both campaigns. every reporter. you're trying to make it through. but he looked out that night and saw all these faces of a these people who believed with him and with him in 2007. i don't mean random faces. i mean, three or people he actually recognized and knew and kind of waivedded at him and waived back. and that's struck him. i think it impacted him. you could see he got a little emotional. he was reflective as it sounds like romney was as well. i remember morning of the election we were waiting to do the interviews the day o